YOu have to ask yourself "why *would* anybody attack the US froces in
Iraq?"

Easy answer...Iraqi citizen says, "Hey America, thanks for getting rid
of that ****ing Saddam Hussein...why are you still here? Leave my
country NOW." Some Iraqi factions maneuvering for power are equally
thankful for getting rid of SH, absent the Baathists and Tikritis.
According to a RAND study, the US "****ed up" (my word) by not having
enough troops/police/civil affairs folks on the ground to ensure
domestic tranquility.


In this I am in total agreement. I think Rumsfeld was so anxious to
sell "transformation" that the US military got the shaft in a huge way
over there. About half the people they ought to have had and no plan
for after the war.




[FWIW, prior to our invasion I think the number of al-qaeda asswipes
in Iraq totaled the square root of negative 1, but NOW there maybe
hundreds or thousands of those ****s in-country...the borders are so
damn porous. Which is NOT to say MaS and his merry band are al-qaeda.]


Never said MaS is al-qaeda. It was pretty obvious from the first time
he opened his mouth and praised 9/11 that he was bad news though.





We're doing lots of great things in Iraq WRT to civil affairs outside
of the Sunni triangle, Najaf, etc. But all those attaboys mean the
square root of **** all to the folks competing for power, or that
simply want us to leave.

So the choice is to leave and leave the Iraq people at the mercy of
those trying to grab power or stay to finish the job. Which would you
choose?







There was a great article on 8/15 in the Philly Inquirer about a USMC
outfit in western Iraq written by an imbedded reporter. Lots of
heroism, and lots of deadly combat against well trained, well
coordinated, sharpshooting Iraqi guerillas (the Marines even say so).

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/ you'll have to register then look
for http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...9401925.htm?1c
titled The Battle of Rimadi.

They know why we're there, if they chose to fight on the same side as the
terrorists then they'll reap their rewards.

Again you presume to think Iraqis must think like you, and perceive
the occupation of their country by friggin INFIDELS as a good thing.


And you do the same by presuming that since those grabbing for power
are ****ed that there is opposition the entire population of Iraq
would prefer we leave.




Jesus ****ing christ Scott...are you really that dense? Sure as
americans, our troops are going to shoot first and sort it out later.
No uniforms and no team jerseys for insurgents or terrorists.
Classifying ALL opposition fighters as terrorists is the zenith of
ignorance.


I've stated that they aren't all terrorists. HOWEVER, fighting on the
side of the terrorists, even if not FOR them. . .well when it gets
down to it WTF does it matter what their motivation is? You shoot at
US soldiers your going to get shot back at. Period. Saddam is gone
and there's a power vaccum and every asshole with delusions of
granduer in Iraq is trying to fill it. Should we let them? Should we
turn a blind eye while they shoot at our soldiers? Sure sounds like
that's what you're saying.






Let's put it another way:

No look at it this way. Muslims invade America to remove George Bush
(yeah he's an asshole, but he's our asshole)

Ah NOW it begins to make sense.




from power, AND they want
to establish a religious form of government. Here it is 18+ months
after they removed george from power, and they're still here. I bet
every bible thumping anti-abortion knucklehead and every ACLU member
would be fighting the occupation of our nation.

Well the ACLU would be holding protests I'm sure but they'd probably
**** their pants at the thought of even touching a gun.



I encourage you to join the military and get over there to help them
out. I've heard they're looking for volunteers, and you've got the
"right" attitude. Whata-ya-say? Sign up today...