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Old August 23rd 04, 09:55 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Chris Manteuffel" wrote in message
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Are you sure that that quote is correct?


It's a copy and paste from The Boston Globe site. Here's the full
paragraph:

His personal ambitions notwithstanding, Kerry gave clear public voice to the
same position taken by the veterans group. In his appearance before William
Fulbright's Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971, Kerry
volunteered this straightforward testimony: "I committed the same kinds of
atrocities as thousands of others in that I shot in free fire zones, used
harassment and interdiction fire, joined in search and destroy missions, and
burned villages. All of these acts were established policies from the top
down, and the men who ordered this are war criminals."


Here's a link to it:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/liv...rys_conflicts/



http://www.cwes01.com/13790/23910/ktpp179-210.pdf

is a scan of the testimony as printed by the GPO. I have spent a lot
of time with these transcripts from the same period and the font and
format match the ones I have pulled out on paper exactly. If it has
been edited someone has gone to a lot of trouble. Note that Human
Events, the group that supplied the transcript, is an anti-Kerry
group; their analysis of the testimony is at

http://www.cwes01.com/13790/23910/ktpp179-210.pdf

It never mentions any quote like that you provided either.


Gee. Do ya think The Boston Globe is an anti-Kerry group as well?



I can't find any such quote where he admits to war crimes in his sworn
testimony as recorded here. The closest I can find (p. 6-7 of the
sourced document) is somewhat different.

"We are here in Washington also to say that the problem of this war is
not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is part and parcel of
everything that we are trying as human beings to communicate to people
in this country, the question of racism, which is rampant in the
military, and so many other questions also, the use of weapons, the
hypocrisy in our taking umbrage in the Geneva Conventions and using
that as justification for a continuation of this war, when we are more
guilty than any other body of violations of those Geneva Conventions,
[CDM note- 1954 Geneva Conventions that created North and South
Vietnam, not the 1949 Geneva Conventions on the laws of Land Warfare]
in the use of free fire zones, harassment interdiction fire, search
and destroy missions, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, the
killings of prisoners, accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam.
That is what we are trying to say. It is part and parcel of
everything."

From reading the testimony that is closest I can find to the quote you
provide above. If you could provide a source I'd be much appreciative.


You're welcome.