In article , Ed Rasimus
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:06:08 GMT, "ikke" wrote:

Hi again Ed,

Thanks for your swift reply.
The book you mention isn't in my library, I'll try to get hold of a copy.
These however I *do* have, but while most of them mention CM, and some even
have pictures, none of them has a picture of that rear cockpit:

F-105 Thunderchief (Detail & Scale) Bert Kinzey
F-105 Thunderchief, Warbirds Illustrated 49, Robert F. Dorr
F-105 Thunderchief, Kev Darling
F-105 Thunderchief in action, Lou Drendel
F-105 Thunderchief in action, 2nd edition, Ken Neubeck
Republic F-105 Thunderchief, David Anderton
Thud, Lou Drendel
Walk Around F-105Thunderchief, Ken Neubeck
Century Series, Lou Drendel
Century series fighters, F-100 Super Sabre - F-106 Delta Dart, Peter R.
Foster
Wild Weasel, The SAM suppression story, Larry Davis
...and of course When thunder rolled.

As to why I would model a "fartin' Martin" : I'm currently modelling all
aircraft types that caried out the Wild Weasel mission.
Browsing through my documentation, I've found out that one of the aircraft
modified to CM was later converted to a G-model and survived the war.
In the 80ies Monogram made a kit of this particular G-type (nicknamed Mutley
the Flying Dog), which I bought during my military service some 20 years
ago.
I thought it would be neat to have the two of them next to eachother on the
shelf.
A Ryan's Raider is also on my list, provided I can find another of these
Monogram F-105F's.
The T-StickII is not very high on my list, as it was never used in SEA, and
the C&M conversion kit is more expensive than the kit itself.

Anyhow, once more my sincere gratitude for your answer.
Eventhough I'm not all that much the wiser, I think I now know enough to
tackle the matter.
After all: if *you* can't tell, who in IPMS Gent will be able to prove wrong
my efforts?

PS: take a look at my latest baby on:
http://users.pandora.be/IPMS.GENT/ee...hantom%20E.htm


Cheers,

Steven

I looked at another resource after your reply, Anthony Thornborough's
"Iron Hand: Smashing the Enemy's Air Defenses" and found another brief
reference to Combat Martin. He lists the system as QRC-128 and offers
the crew's nickname for the installation: "Colonel Computer". He cites
the system purpose as comm jamming for the GCI-MiG communication
channels during a close escort role in the high-threat environment. (I
did quite a bit of correspondence with Tony for the book and got a few
mentions throughout the text.)

Thornborough mentions that only one of the CM aircraft were lost, that
one being shot down in RP-1 and flown by Dave Winn. Winn retired in
Colorado and was a regent of the University of Colorado for several
years. I used to run into him occasionally, but I believe he passed
away a few years ago.

Let me inquire about CM to a couple of long tenure Weasels that I
correspond with and see if I can find you something a bit more
substantial.

Combat Martin system was built by Hallicrafters, which was bought
by Northrop in 1966. The Rolling Meadows organization.
There are probably some photos in the Northrop archives.
Rhetorical question: know anyone who worked for Northrop?

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur