"A Lieberman" wrote in message ...
About to take a trip down to Gulfport MS (GPT) tomorrow morning.

Ceilings are forecasted to be 300 broken, so I really doubt that I will be
mucking around with full procedure approaches in the clag, but while I was
studying the approaches into GPT, I am kinda figuring on expecting vectors
for the ILS 14 approach based on forecasted winds.

Looking at the approach, the IAF is CAESA. Outside the 10 NM ring, it says
2000 no PT, so, I would take it that no procedure turn is authorized, yet,
I see the procedure turn barbs just inside the 10 NM ring. Am I reading
this correctly that no procedure turns for the ILS is authorized outside
this 10NM ring, and if I was to do a full procedure approach that it must
be inside the the 10 NM ring??? Or what am I missing?

I'm looking at the naco chart at http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0501/00576IL14.PDF

The procedure turn is applicable only if you start the approach at the BAYOU IAF. The "2000 noPT" designation
applies only if you start the approach at the CAESA IAF. The barb being inside or outside the 10nm ring is not
significant itself (though it shows outside the 10nm ring on the naco chart), but the profile view clearly
indicates that you must remain within 15nm on the procedure turn.


This question is coming up, as when I got my flight briefing, the briefer
said, no procedure turn at CAESA from Victor 552 which in my opinion agrees
with the approach chart, yet I see the procedure turn barbs outbound 268
and inbound 088 to intercept the localizer.

Any assistance in clearing up my question really appreciated.


I expect that most FSS briefers know very little about approaches

Have a great flight!

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ