Tim wrote:
Dan Thompson wrote:

SoCal TRACON maintains very tight control over that airspace. Although
I have never flown IFR out of KSMO, I am sure they would assign a
heading to maintain for radar vectors. If I am correct, that would
supercede the ODP.

If you actually get a vector, ATC is taking responsibility for obstacle/terrain
clearance. Otherwise, the ODP will keep you out of the dirt. I don't think an
initial instruction like "enter controlled airspace on heading X" qualifies as a
vector for that purpose.

If I thought I couldn't maintain obstacle/terrain clearance visually, and if the
departure clearance conflicted with the ODP, I think I'd have to negotiate a
different clearance.

Dave