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Old April 2nd 04, 01:08 AM
Bill Denton
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Thanks for turning me on to AIM 4-3-2; it doesn't get much clearer than
that.

Is it possible that Waukegan has some special stuff going on because the
center of the airport is only 2 nm from the Chicago Class B?

BTW: I'm not one of those "argument for argument's sake" dudes, I'm just
trying to make sure I learn and thoroughly understand this stuff. Thanks for
your help!



"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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Let's first jump back to my original subject on the specifics of the
accident:


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You stated: "The accident was caused by both pilots not seeing and
avoiding."

However, the article states: "Student pilot Sharon Hock...was not

mentioned
as a factor in the Feb. 8, 2000, accident."

Further: "The probable cause of the accident was Collins' "failure to
maintain clearance from the other airplane," said the NTSB report, which

is
in line with a previous federal report outlining the facts of the

accident."

Additionally: ""Factors relating to the accident were the pilot's

Collins']
poor visual lookout, and the . . . local controller's failure to provide
effective sequencing,"

And: "Fowler (controller) said he told Hock to turn "based on his

estimate
of the elapsed time before losing sight of [her plane], and the pilot's
Collins) verbal report that he had crossed the shoreline.""

You stated: "It is a class D airport. Controllers are not responsible

for
separation or sequencing at class D airports. A fact seemingly lost to

many
pilots."

However, both the NTSB and the controller indicated that "separation and
sequencing" were part of the controller's responsibilities at Waukegan.


A lot of the findings go against FARs and what is written in the AIM. The
report doesn't make sense in a lot of areas. I can't explain or

understand
the government and quite honestly hope I never do.

Further: AIM 4-3-2 indicates that the tower at Class D airports will

provide
traffic control in the Class D airspace.


Give paragraph 3-2-5 a read. Very last sentence of that section.