Yes, the modern biz jet is very over-powered and they can
climb at moderate speed. But with an engine out, even the
hot-rod Lear jet climbs out flat.

Just as a point, I once had the opportunity to depart
Wichita (1332 feet MSL) single pilot in a King Air 300, no
passengers or baggage and only 1/2 fuel. I was taking the
plane to Oklahoma City for a salesman to show. Departed
runway 1R and did a 130 kt. IAS chandelle to the right from
rotation, circling around the airport radar antenna. Rolled
out southbound at 5,000 over the Cessna plant. Approach
asked where I was, apparently I stayed in their dead zone
from just after lift-off until I rolled out of my turn,
about 45 seconds after take-off.

I could have been higher but 5,000 was my take-off limit,
approach cleared my to 15,000 and I was there before I was
10 miles south. Love that big King Air, only problem was my
chart bag ended up in the baggage area, lucky for me, it was
a route I flew weekly and the necessary charts were on my
knee. I use a cheap steno pad holder with a "third-hand"
from Sporty's, cost very little, has a clear window on the
flap and a 5x8 yellow pad.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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news:26_uf.6816$V.287@fed1read04...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| KISS WAG SWAG PDC
|
| 150/152 even 200 ft/nm is shallow, but most light
aircraft
| and many jets with an engine out can't do it at
altitudes
| above 5,000 feet.
|
|
| Then, there are the high-end biz jets that can do 700 feet
per mile (SL,
| standard day) with OEI.
|