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Old December 12th 03, 06:04 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Paul F Austin" wrote in message
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"Magnus Redin" wrote in message
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Hi!

"Paul F Austin" writes:
So you really do need to justify a gun's place on the airframe on more

than
"it might be useful and you never know"..


A gun is probably the cheapest way of killing low-performace targets
like UAV:s, cheap targets that an enemy can produce in large numbers
forcing you to deplete your stock of expensive AA-misiles.

The gun system reuse all the expensive parts, radar, electronics for
aiming the aeroplane and the gun while the ammunition can be dumb
and is easy to mass produce.

It is of course possible to develop a fairly cheap and small low
performance AA-missile but it is hard to get it as cheap as a gun
system. This gun competitor might be developed if someone decides to
arm small UAV:s with AA-missiles for killing other UAV:s and
helicopters.


And it's cheaper still to have a dedicated anti-UAV system, possibly like

a
turboprop P-51.


I doubt that. Are you seriously contending that producing some single-role
anti-UAV aircraft, along with training the pilots, setting up the logistics
support system, etc., ad nauseum, is going to be cheaper than continuing to
install (multi-use) guns in modern (multirole) fighters?

Using a $60M+ fighter to bust $100K UAVs is stupid.


I suspect it would be less stupid than recreating the whel in the form of
producing and fielding an entirely new line of limited use aircraft.

It's
also nearly impossible. A low signature, low altitide target loitering

along
at 100kts is tough to manage in a fast mover. You'll blow though a tank of
ammunition killing very few UAVs.


Not all UAV's are low signature (at least not so low as to be indetectable
by a fighter). Nor do they all loiter at extremely low altitude (lest they
get plinked by the odd troopie with his rifle or the local SHORAD assets).

Brooks



And I realy like the idea of a backup weapon if the enemy has superior
countermeasures for your AA-missiles. But you can have that with a pod
filled with unguided rockets.


That's also why you have the next generation AAM. A major portion of the
AIM-9 development over the last 50 years (!) has been improvements to
seekers to get Pk up, including in the face of better countermeasures..