On 5/18/2021 2:12 PM, AS wrote:
On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 2:13:36 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
I'm very disturbed by the idea that airspace NOTAMS can change after I've taken off. Why
should I or anyone waste their time looking at them on the ground, if they have to contact
ATC in the air as they approach the airspace, so they know what the airspace status is?
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Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
That seems to happen more often than one would think! Talk to the guys who fly the ridges in Central PA. When the POTUS decides to hop in a chopper and spend the weekend at Camp David, the no-fly zone around it covers a good part of the ridge(s). I am sure a NOTAM will be published but you will not know about it until you get visited by a black helicopter.
A similar thing happened a number of years ago when the POTUS was campaigning for reelection in OH. A NOTAM for a 'moving no-fly' zone was issued for the corridor between Toledo and Columbus but not even the ATC in that area knew, where the motorcade was at any moment. I inquired about it with Akon/Canton and their response was 'Well - do you see any Black Hawks circling you? No? Good - then you are not in it, yet!' We decided to pack it in for the day and fire up the grill.
I'm sure POTUS is a special problem, but it's never been an issue for me in the 30 some
years I've been checking NOTAMS (where I fly there are usually very few voters). I'm not
aware of any NOTAMS that changed while I was flying. Aside from POTUS, has this happened
to anyone, did it cause you to violate airspace, and was official action taken against you?
What are the regulations for NOTAMS; e.g., are they strictly "informational" and you
depend on them at your risk? I've always assumed they could be issued at any time, but it
was understood pilots might not know about them for at least 4 to 8 hours, and you should
have it issued no later than the day before if at all possible.
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Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1