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Old May 8th 09, 09:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Keith Willshaw[_4_]
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Default "PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"


"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
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On May 7, 1:09 pm, "Keith Willshaw"
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"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
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As a back-drop, 27 years ago,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet#Falklands_Conflict
(Seems like yesterday).


Delivered by aircraft as a standoff weapon, the target identification
was down on board the aircraft.


Keith, I was rather hoping the "27 years ago" might
be a hint.
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It's a bit difficult to hide a CVN from a satellite.


Sure but getting real time location from a satellite is difficult and
VERY expensive


This works, it's civilian,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADARSAT-1


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the satellite is in exactly the same location and can take the same image
(same beam mode and beam position) every 24 days.
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Not much good for real time target tracking

1) Any given low earth recon birds will only revisit any given spot
at infrequent periods typically measured in daysor at best hours
rather than minutes

2) Standard recon satellites use optical or infrared methods which
limits their effectiveness in case of clud cover

3) Even if your satellite happens to fly over a CVN you have to
have people analysing the data in real time.

To get round the problems the Soviets launched a whole series
of Radar satellites (RORSAT). These were BIG and typically
powered by type BES-5 nuclear reactors. They weighed in at
around 4 tons and to get decent coverage of even a fairly small
part of the planet they had to launch a whole constellation of
them at vast expense.

AFAIK there have been no such satelllites in service for more
than a decade.


Today, using conventional ordinance, an MRBM
put in the ballpark of a CVN will terminal guide to a
probable direct hit, even choosing where to hit.


And just what combination of sensors and steering do you think
can do that ?


If the CVN+fleet is converted into a floating nuke
strike base, it becomes #1 target to MIRV, as in
10 100kt bombs detonated over a fleet.
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First find your fleet then target the missiles and get launch authorisation.

Oops the fleet has now moved miles from that location.

I deviated the topic to F-35 (nuke able) for the navy
is to be absolutely unnecessary and of nil usefulness.
(The A-5 Vigilante again).
I'll go further, all nuke weapons should be banned by
treaty from international waters and air space.
Ken


There goes the US nuclear deterrent
Keith


Maybe the nuke subs lurkin' off the US coasts on hair
trigger can go home, if it's ok with American citizens.
Ken


Maybe but the Russian boats wont

Keith