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Old April 26th 07, 11:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Matt Whiting
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Default Anyone ever hear this from a controller

Kobra wrote:
Flyers,

I was flying IFR in VFR conditions and from NJ to Kissimmee, FL (KISM). As
I was approaching KISM the controller asked if I wanted to do a visual
approach or the ILS. Since I was in unfamiliar surroundings and wanted to
practice an ILS I said, "I'll take the ILS."

As I waited for the typical clearance of, "Cessna XXX, 5 miles from XYZ, fly
heading 180, maintain 2000 until established, cleared for the ILS XX
approach." I got, "Ok, just let me know when you want to start the
approach."

Huh!?! I didn't know what to do or say. I asked, "Do you want me to head
for the FAF?" Then another controller came on the frequency and said,
"Cessna XXX cleared for the ILS approach"

So I just headed for the FAF and began to intercept the localizer. The
controller than asked me what I was doing. I was so confused since they
were not using standard terminology. Thoughts anyone.


Confusion is bad so whenever I'm confused I generally do one of two things:

1. Call ATC and tell them I don't understand their instruction and ask
them what they really want me to do.

2. State clearly what I plan to do and then do it if I don't hear
anything to the contrary.

In your case, #1 might be: "Approach, verify that Cessna XXX is cleared
for a full ILS YY approach." I'm trusting that as an instrument rated
pilot you know what a full approach means.

#2 might have been: "Approach, Cessna XXX is flying present position to
the FAF for ILS YY and will fly inbound upon interception."


Matt