Brian wrote in message
et...
Scott,

ASSuming again - I am not French, only interested in a particular
French
built aircraft and its airlift capabilities.

I am an American by birth, served my time in the US Army in the late
80s. I
served to protect your rights and my rights to stand up for the USA or
put
her in her place - whatever views we have - we have the right to them
whether we agree or not - at least we agree to disagree.

In regards to your statement of the Afghani's and Iraqi's being
grateful -
some yes, but not all - on Nightline Thursday night, an Iraqi said "at
least
under Saddam the electricity was on... things were better under
Saddam."

I am not saying Saddam was man of the year material or even a nice
person,
however, the made up lies of Bush and Blair (six months later and no
WMDs)
was no reason to invade the country. The lies are leading many to
believe
that the attack on Iraq was nothing more than revenge for embarrassing
daddy
Bush and/or control of the oil interests in Iraq to counter OPEC.
American
wanna drive and any prez who can provide cheap fuel is going to gain
points.

Now in regards to Afghanistan, the Taliban (the leadership in power at
the
time) made a choice not to surrender Osama - I do not feel bad for
them.
Hide a criminal and you get cast in the same lot as an accessory.

While I do not agree with Osama's choice of target (personally, I
would have
chosen the Capitol Building or White House or even a large refinery),
I can
understand their methods.

How else do you fight a giant? You can't trade punches in a
traditional
battlefied sense and expect to win. That has been proven twice in
Iraq.

Events in Somalia, Vietnam, Beruit and our responses as a country have
shown
the American's weak link (public opinion) make it bloody enough and
drawn
out and despite the revenge hawks, the majority will clamor for the US
to
pull out - and we usually do. Leaving behind a nice void to be filled
by
whomever has the biggest arsenal in the region.

The development of the terrorist (aka. Partisan (if this were WW II
and
being conducted against German occupying forces), mujahadeen (if they
were
fighting against the Red menace), or VC (if they are fighting for a
belief
other than the mighty dollar or the Red White and Blue capitalistic
Democracy)) is completely dependant upon what the US leadership has in
its
mind - both the Taliban and Saddam were US allies when the Russians or
Iranians were a concern. Now that the Cold War is over, US abandoned
their
friends as they were the unclean masses used only as cannon fodder
when
needed.

The US Government, in its infinite wisdom, by following the US foreign
policies determined by the presidents after WWII created 95% of the
hatred
felt worldwide against the US.

The US did not support Israel until AFTER the Soviets started
supporting the
Arab states - Remember the 56 war? Only US weapons in use by the
Israeli's
were stuff bought from Europe (mostly WWII surplus). It wasn't until
the
sixties that the US sent billions in weapons to counter the Red
menace.

The Marshall Plan after WWII was only issued to the chosen countries
who
agreed to kiss the ass of the USA in return for the rebuilding
assistance -
did Yugoslavia or Albania recieve any aid form the US - Nope not a
dime.
(Yugoslavia only got a little assistance in the fifties as an attempt
to
swing them to the west).

There are several examples of the US can do that but no one else can
since
the the end of WWII - it is this attitude and the RAPE of foriegn
markets to
make the little guy dependant on the US that has caused so much hatred
world
wide as well as disgust among our own close allies.

Some day, some one will come around and gather enough forces to kick
the
knees out from under the US so that she does land hard on her ass and
possibly knock some sense into the country as a whole.

America is not ALL THAT. There are better places in the world - some
with
higher taxes but more personal freedoms, others with better economies,
others with better health care, others with better eduction, others
with a
lower crime rate.

Yes, on the other hand, there are more places that are worse than
America -
N. Korea, Mexico, Haiti, Dominican Republic and so on. America's
greatness
is only military any more - hell we don't even follow the Statue of
Liberty
any more - "Give us your weak" - talk about hypocracy!

Well enough of the rant

Brian - harpoon at thegrafixguy dot com


So unanimous agreement among the civilian population is your standard
for success? How Hitlerian of you.

If only you and the other flaming Leftists could get as worked up about
those attacking the US as you do about those defending it, we might
actually accomplish something. You and I know that'll never happen.
You should be smart enough to go to these much better places.

Wouldn't it be easier for you to leave than to turn the most successful
country into a middling failure like the places you prefer. Typical
socialist, your preferences are more important than all others. Are you
sure you're not French? Your arrogance says otherwise.
--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm