(Jack Linthicum) wrote in message . com...
(Michael Petukhov) wrote in message . com...
http://gazeta.ru/lenta.shtml?274014#274014 (in russian)

Aug 25, 7:40

commander-in-chief of Russian NAVY admiral Kuroedov told
press that forces of russian pacific ocean fleet have
detected in Saturday and also today foreign submarines
in the area near Kamchatka where large scale manoeuvres of our
fleet are carried out. "We are fully in control of this
situation and prepared to interact with our foreign
"observers" in this way as well. Perhaps those subs
came instead of observers who were invited but did not
came from some countries", he said //Interfax

Yesterday there were news reports that two Tu-160s arrived
to Vladivostok to carry out missions in "long distant ocean
zone". Tu-160s never operated in Pacific Ocean area.


Probably could make this statement 360 days out of the year and it
would be true, no need to actually 'detect' them, they are there.

1) the detected sub is dead sub in a war conditions.
2) the detected spy (and it is in a spy mission) is useful
only for its opponent uploading all kind of false data.

I guess this what admiral Kurioedov means
under "interacting". I do hope they indeed can do it 360 days
per year.

Just for comparison during her last patrol in march-may, 1999 in
the Mediterranean Kursk 5 times could undetecteced approach NATO
ships for a salvo of his deadly Granit missiles. And they did mock attacks
Next they did 3 mock torpedo attacks. All were undetected. This was
a bit unpleasant surprise since the plan was to train also escape
capabilities agaist US battle group. Then they understood that in order
to alarm "high professionals" from US NAVY they had to make full speed
noisy approach to hand gun shot distance. They did just to train their
escape capabilities. 3 times fully seccessfully. This story has been
recently published in memories of the crews who was not aboard the
Kursk in her last mission.


Deployment of Tu-160s reminds me of the chapter in one of the "We
Joined the Navy" books in which the aviators each get up and recite
their search plan with no sightings. One junior type actually saw a
submarine and is the hit of the debrief.

What are Tu-160s like at low altitude? Good gas mileage, as we used to
say? Fine observation areas, the esplanade deck with its floor to
ceiling glass and comfortable observation points? Get real, 600 knots
is not going to see anything unless the thing wants to be seen. These
are submarines, not submersible boats.

Tu-160 searching for US subs.... Well sounds like a joke
of the week. We have other means to search for your subs like
Tu-142, Il-38, Ka-27 etc.

Michael