In the bad old days, before pilots were banned from atc centers, I have sat
in there on a bad wx day and watched the frustration of the briefers as they
try to find a permissible way to discourage an, obviously, anxious to go
pilot from tangling with an embedded front with CB, hail, wind shear, and
microbursts...
Doing my usual schtick to get a reaction I said, let him go, what do you
care of he is too stupid to live?
The reply was - I can't turn the radio off and I 'have' to listen to him
scream and beg as he is going down...

I didn't have a smart aleck answer for that......

Denny

"journeyman" wrote in message
u.com...
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:26:27 GMT, Sydney Hoeltzli
wrote:
G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Same here. I have never had an ASOS tell me that VFR flight was not
recommended because of the possibility of icing in clouds.