"K.P. Termaat" wrote in message ...
Hi Ian,

I would vote in favor also for abolishing the "10 km / only once" rule,
but I think it has no chance at the next IGC meeting.
I agree with KISS; the current rules are much to complicated and
moreover rules for badges and records are different and mixed up. What a
mess. Very easy to fall in a trap as we did.

The only major difference between badge and record flight is that for
badges, a triangle doesn't need to meet the min/max leg length, and
that one may use the turnpoint options that I expand on below. For
records, one must declare the exact task to be flown, unless going for
free distance, and that makes sense as that is part of the planning
process for the flight.

I'd like to see this change just a little so one could declare any
time before start instead of before takeoff. But that's for another
thread.

B.t.w. do you understand why the 1.4.5.b. rule at its end says "This
course must be declared" while the rule says "in any sequence or not at
all". I just don't understand (another trap?).

I quote the key sentence in 1.4.5.b:

"The TURNPOINTS must be at least 10 km apart and may be claimed once,
in any sequence, or not at all."

Instead of "visit" the FAI says "claim". Your amendment is exactly
the same as the current rulle exept for the "10 km" part.

For a badge flight this 3 TP task lets the pilot declare 3 different
O&R flights or up to 3 triangles that may meet the badge requirement.
Then, once airborne the pilot can choose one of these tasks or may
just do a straight out. This is a valuable tool for the badge seeker
flying in an area where the weather makes it difficult to choose the
'right' task early in the day. It still requires the badge seeker to
declare the turnpoints to be used, requiring a bit more planning skill
thatn a totally free 3TP flight.

I agree the 10 km rule really should be eliminated as others have
mentioned how it doesn't have any aobvious justification. HOWEVER,
anyone who has even glanced at the rules, should be able to see this
limitation. The task is described in 3 sentences and the 10 km rule
is one of these.

P.s. Our amendment will probably go for :

1.4.5. Distance performance for badges only
b. Distance using up to three turnpoints:
A flight from a startpoint via up to three declared turnpoints to a
finishpoint . If the finishpoint is the landing place it need not be
declared. In any sequence, no more then three visits to declared
turnpoints may be claimed for the performance.

Tom Serkowski