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Old May 12th 04, 08:39 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"EDR" wrote in message
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I am not a jet jockey. I fly a slow spam can. If I am given a SID or
STAR I am going to be flying miles out of my way, well below traffic
that the procedures are designed to separate.


Arrival/departure routes often vary with altitude. If a route applies to
your slow spam can it's going to be issued without regard to what you've put
in remarks. Putting "NO SIDS OR STARS" in remarks means you won't be issued
a SID or STAR by name, it'll just be issued in full. All you've done is
crowd the frequency.