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Old July 13th 08, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

FUBAR7 wrote:
Mike wrote:
"FUBAR7" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.

Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?


Yes, under duress by forced work procedures mandated by FAA
draconian management


What forced work procedures caused the duress to the controllers
involved in these incidents?

EXPANSION OF FAA MANAGEMENT POSITIONS IN CUBICLE RAT POSITIONS BUT
REDUCTION IN KEY SAFETY AND FRONT LINE CONTROLLER AND TECHNICIAN
POSITIONS

Poor training


An off-the-street controller will typically spend about 4 years in
training for the position in question.

FAA management overruling controller concerns of unsafe parallel
runway configuration and procedures at JFK


Funny how NATCA never issued a press release on it, despite the
procedures being in place for years and NATCA's penchant for issuing
press releases on every other play on irrational fears they can
think of.
Insufficient staffing during peak traffic periods


According to NATCA who has been complaining about staffing for the
past 26 years running.

Boy/Wolf.

Ridiculous dress codes


Controllers making 6 figures can't wear shorts, flip flops, and
T-shirts to work anymore. Kinda makes you get all teary eyed,
doesn't it?
Salary cuts


No controller ever received a salary cut.

No union contract


Because NATCA refused to negotiate in good faith they didn't get a
contract per rules put in place over 10 years ago which NATCA lobbied
for and endorsed. They didn't complain about it much 10 years ago
when they were getting massive pay increases.

Poor OJT training at many level 5 towers


Because many NATCA members refuse to give OJT (which is part of their
job that they get paid well for) since they are no longer getting
EXTRA pay for doing so. Furthermore, all the extra functions NATCA
members agreed to do in order to get massive pay increases in their
last contract never materialized. In other words, when NATCA
members are paid more to supposedly do more, but don't do more,
that's OK, but when management expects them to actually do the job
they are paid to do, that's not OK. Then when they don't do the job
they are paid to do, they blame their own failures on "management".

Supervisors unable to work traffic or stay current


False.

Diversity promotions USING NON-WHITE MALE people who are unqualified


Didn't you just claim ALL promotees are unqualified? Your true
bigoted colors are shining through.

And many more too numerous to mention.


Translation: I lost my list of NATCA talking points, but none of them
were any better than the shorts & flip-flop one anyway.

Notice how the disgruntled NATCA member hopes and prays for an
accident where people get killed so he can score his pathetic points
and hopefully go back to wearing shorts & flip-flops, and getting
ridiculous raises for doing nothing extra, and spending 3 hours on
position during an 8 hour shift.

Don't get me wrong, most NATCA members and non-NATCA member
controllers are very good and professional employees that do a very
good job and complain very little because they know they have it
good. Then you have those who are like this guy. Chances are he's
nothing more than a perennial complainer who can't hack it to begin
with. He has a bone to pick with FAA management because they had
the audacity to expect him to actually do something to earn his
salary. With any luck, his Type A personality will cause him to
lose his medical and his job (if this hasn't happened already), or
perhaps his boss will finally get enough of his crap and fire him
for performance issues. In the mean time he will continue to blame
all his problems on minorities and FAA management when even the
casual observer can tell he's the root of his own problems. You can
always tell his type when you get them on frequency. He's
the type that will refuse your requests even though he's not that
busy, give you a ****ty attitude, and send you around the long way
just because he wants to use a job action to make one of his
pointless points. So you put up with his crap knowing you'll be
handed off in a few minutes to a more professional controller, but
don't forget his fellow employees and other pilots have to put up
with his crap for a lot longer. If you want to do your fellow pilots, the
FAA, and Mr. Fubar's fellow
employees a favor, the next time he screws you over on frequency ask
for his initials (he has to give them to you), then ask for the
number of the facility. Be sure to note the approximate time and
location. When you call the facility, ask for the QA manager's
number, or if it's a smaller facility ask for the facility manager. Tell
them what happened. Mr. Fubar WILL get called on the carpet, and his
boss will
have the tapes and the radar data in front of them. If it happens
enough, he'll get his certification pulled, and with any luck, he'll
be out the door. It's just a simple way you as a pilot can improve
the level of service you receive from the FAA. Believe it or not,
the FAA does treat pilot feedback very seriously.


Blah-Blah-Blah

Obviously you are clueless and you have no idea how the real
ATCT world works


Do you believe you know how the real ATC world works?