Roy Smith wrote in message
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"Guy Elden Jr." wrote:
ignore ATC when
they "complain" that you should be able to read their minds.

Yeah.

I had a bizarre experience just the other day. We were doing a left
downwind departure from Morristown NJ's runway 23 and I wanted to get
back to White Plains as efficiently as possible. For those not
familiar with the area, it's very congested airspace, with Morristown
and Caldwell's Class D's abutting, Teterboro's Class D right next door,
and all of this under the shelf of New York's Class B.

GPS gave me a bearing to White Plains and Morristown tower let us leave
the frequency as soon as we broke ground. I called up NY Approach and
requested "Class Bravo clearance, heading 080, direct White Plains".
The controller gave us a squawk and instructed us to "remain below the
floor of the class bravo, and clear of Caldwell's airspace".

A quick glance at the chart showed that we could do all that by
squeaking between Caldwell and Teterboro, almost exactly in the
direction we wanted to go. So we started to do that. Not long after,
the controler was back, yelling at us to head north-west (about 120
degrees off our on-course heading), and ranting about how we needed to
stay out of the arrival path, blah, blah. Clearly he felt we had
disregarded his instructions.

The problem is, what he really wanted us to do was stay clear of CDW's
airspace to the west. All he *told* us to do was to stay clear of it,
and we were doing that by going east of it. What was I supposed to do,
read his mind?

At what altitude were you intending to skirt east of CDW? Isn't the Class B
floor 1800 there?