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Old March 13th 17, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default All US Records are Now Motor Glider Records

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 6:49:05 AM UTC-7, Tango Eight wrote:
Winter isn't quite over yet, so...

The excerpt quoted below is from an email I received from my state record keeper (who owns two motor gliders). It is an extract from a communication to state record keepers from Bob Faris (who has been collecting records with his motor glider), US B&R Committee Chair.

Our IGC rep (who owns a motor glider -- anyone see a pattern here?) has so far ignored my email on the subject. Thanks a ton, Rick. For the moment, I'll presume that my information is legitimate, however distasteful it might be. 711, can you please go get your scorer a propeller beanie and humiliate him publicly?

Extract follows.

"The new record rules have been posted to the website. Even though the rules date is December 15, 2016, the effective date is March 5, 2017. Any record claimed for a flight prior to March 5 should be processed under the old rules. The record matrices have not been updated yet to reflect the rule changes and the link on those pages is to the old rules. I don't have an estimate of when the matrices will be able to be modified. There are two primary changes to the rules:


1. The term "Youth" has been changed to "Junior" to align with the Sporting Code.

2. The big change is the removal of the separate motorglider classes. These classes are no longer recognized by the Sporting Code. Claims made by a glider carrying a motor can now be made in any applicable class. Note that motorgliders must have a MoP recorder or seals that detect if the engine is used, unless the motor is disabled or removed. The FAI Form D is still required for those claims."

Extract ends.

Motor glider pilots have always had the option of flying for sailplane records. You simply had to disable the propulsion system to do it. Was this really so much to ask? After all, any motor glider pilot will tell you the motor is only about "convenience".

A pox upon the IGC. What a bunch of flaccid, low testosterone ******s. Screw Europe, we should go our own way.

Either that or donate heavily to my ASH-31 fund and I'll show you just how much difference it really makes. I'm prepared to be reasonable about this.

Evan Ludeman / T8


I note that people complaining about the advantage of motorgliders are typically people who have not owned one and flown it cross country a lot, and who perceive all advantages and no disadvantages. However, I will go with the sentiment. We also need:

A separate class for tasks flown truly solo (no ground crew).

A separate class for tasks flown with paper maps charts only, no GPS.

A separate class for tasks flown with electronic variometers vs. pellet variometers.

A separate class for tasks flown with no relief tube.

These are after all only expensive conveniences which some claim improve performance. Wing loading makes FAR more difference than any of the above (engine included), yet the record rules are silent on the matter. If a change it warranted, they should speak to this first, before the trivia is addressed.