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Old February 10th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Default A couple of questions about IPC

On 02/10/06 14:43, Gary Drescher wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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- IMC conditions
- Pilot flying is not IMC current
- Pilot flying is sole manipulator of the controls, and thus logs PIC
- Pilot not flying is acting PIC (required because the pilot flying

is
not IMC current) and so logs PIC


There is no provision for the pilot acting as PIC to log PIC in this
case. Only the flying pilot would be able to log PIC. The only way you
can log PIC is per 61.51(e). In this case the guy serving as PIC does
not meet the requirements of a "required crew member" since the
aircraft is legal to fly IFR with just one pilot (the fact that that
pilot isn't qualified doesn't change that).


Actually, the pilot serving as PIC *is* a "required pilot" under the
regulations that apply to the flight; and being required *by those
regulations* is what 61.51e1iii talks about. It's the *other* pilot (the
sole manipulator) who isn't required under the regulations that apply to the
flight in question.


But I guess the pilot not flying (in this case), although a required
crew member as per 61.51 (e)(1)(iii), cannot log his time as PIC *if*
the pilot flying logs his time as PIC as per 61.51 (e)(1)(i).

Is that right?




--Gary




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