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Old October 22nd 03, 08:38 AM
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From: kirill
Date: 10/21/2003 10:38 PM Central Daylight Time
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The Black Monk wrote:

Instead, of course, Hitler's war was a
crusade only for his grotesque and evil ideology, as bad as if not
worse than the Bolshevism he fought.


There is simply no comparison between the explicit genocide
promulgated by the Nazi ideology and the de facto repressive
implementation of "communism" in the USSR. All this talk
about "famine holocausts" is nothing but revisionist and
Nazi apologist drivel especially considering that it originates
from areas that never suffered through any Soviet famine and
which actively supported Hitler during WWII.

Ok, the Nazis had a semi open program of mass murder (read leibensraum,
transportation to the occupied territories etc) and the Soviets had a secret
program. That does not change the fact that many millions of innocent civilions
were deliberately murdered in both cases. The Nazis only had 12 years vs. the
Lenin-Stalin period's 36. Stalin's gulags were in business before the Nazi
concentration camp system. The gulag system's goldmines gave the average inmate
a life expectansy of 30 days. Stalin starved to death many hundreds of
thousands of people in his collectivization program.Stalins purges killed
millions more. His program of random arrest and vanishings of millions of
people was at least as effective as Hitler's nacht und nebel programs .

Without minimizing Nazi atrocities the Soviets did far worse. Of course the
Soviet system of elimination of "enemies of the state" was simply carrying on
the tradition of the Tsars. Had the Nazis lasted as long as Stalin I would
guess they would have had numbers exceding the Soviet's.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired