On May 8, 12:51 am, frank wrote:
On May 8, 1:38 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:



On May 7, 1:09 pm, "Keith Willshaw"

wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ...
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As a back-drop, 27 years ago,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet#Falklands_Conflict
(Seems like yesterday).

Delivered by aircraft as a standoff weapon, the target identification
was down on board the aircraft.

Keith, I was rather hoping the "27 years ago" might
be a hint.
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It's a bit difficult to hide a CVN from a satellite.

Sure but getting real time location from a satellite is difficult and
VERY expensive

This works, it's civilian,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADARSAT-1

1) Any given low earth recon birds will only revisit any given spot
at infrequent periods typically measured in daysor at best hours
rather than minutes

2) Standard recon satellites use optical or infrared methods which
limits their effectiveness in case of clud cover

3) Even if your satellite happens to fly over a CVN you have to
have people analysing the data in real time.

To get round the problems the Soviets launched a whole series
of Radar satellites (RORSAT). These were BIG and typically
powered by type BES-5 nuclear reactors. They weighed in at
around 4 tons and to get decent coverage of even a fairly small
part of the planet they had to launch a whole constellation of
them at vast expense.

AFAIK there have been no such satelllites in service for more
than a decade.

Today, using conventional ordinance, an MRBM
put in the ballpark of a CVN will terminal guide to a
probable direct hit, even choosing where to hit.

If the CVN+fleet is converted into a floating nuke
strike base, it becomes #1 target to MIRV, as in
10 100kt bombs detonated over a fleet.
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I deviated the topic to F-35 (nuke able) for the navy
is to be absolutely unnecessary and of nil usefulness.
(The A-5 Vigilante again).
I'll go further, all nuke weapons should be banned by
treaty from international waters and air space.
Ken

There goes the US nuclear deterrent
Keith

Maybe the nuke subs lurkin' off the US coasts on hair
trigger can go home, if it's ok with American citizens.
Ken

You must have missed Cheney's memo. Its all peace love and
tranquility. Ed has long hair, throws rose petals. They all luv us. no
more hair triggers.

They/us ??? Recently I'm amazed that the value of a house
in Kansas drops 30%, and so Chinese workers can't afford to
buy Big Macs in Beiging.

Now, it takes what minutes to get back to a hair trigger alert, but
most people don't understand that.

Basing SSBN's in national waters provides recallability,
if sent enroute to launch stations, and a moment of sanity
pause.

Guess the politicians are happy. Slip them another beer.

It's been suggested we gather all interested politicians
to witness an H-bomb detonation every few years, also
we could all do scientific experiments, it would be a
"clean bomb".
Imagine a bunch of them sitting around in their lawn
chairs in the Sahara desert, enjoying a beverage, then
BOOM, fun stuff. It would be a real tourist draw too.

We could build a pipeline from the Mediterrean to make
some beach front property, (some clothing optional for Ed).
Do it every 4 years like the Olympics.

Frank you have a lot of stimulating ideas.
Ken