On Nov 5, 6:05*pm, Mike Ash wrote:
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*Bob Nixon wrote:

GET OVER DOG FIGHTING???? Isn't that the very reason they put a gun on
the F4-E and center racked add-on M61 EQ on earlier models in the RVN
non war?. All because the politicians said any war fought in the
future will be against targets out of visual range using side winders
& Sparrow missiles. Now we have Amraam (I worked on several systems
that went into them and) they even have a longer range version now but
you still can't tell it oops, I didn't really mean to fire at you a
"friendly" & turn it back. You must have not turned your mode 4 IFF
on

They laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Just because they were wrong about missiles in 1958 doesn't mean that
we're wrong about it in 2009. The capabilities of the missiles have
changed ever so slightly over the intervening years.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

Mike I'm trying to back out of this group because it's comprised of
mainly small aviation AC pilots who lets face it, are not exactly like
Einstein or Bozo the clown but just regular guys who think 1940's
boxer 4 & 6's are still tits when compared to the German Zoche 2 stoke
Turbo/supercharges Diesel with both better fuel economy JP4,5 and far
more powerful and lighter but not 80 year proven technology.

But fear not. I looked up the F-22 link on Wilkipedia and now I have
more faith in my country and their military decisions. see link below
and read if it's not beyond most of your comprehension See link
below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor
http://www.zoche.de/FAQ.HTM

As it turns out the top speed is really still classified but published
as mach 2.25 @ altitude and near mach 2 in super-cruise so the old way
of figuring top speed by looking for a variable inlet ramp is
apparently no longer the case and to boot the system has so many
advances to even discuss here in Cessna 172 country but one of those
things are a system that self checks the AC's stealth capability. I
also read somewhere else that the Raptor has a 10:1 kill ratio against
the Russian built Flanker SU-30+ series of AC proven at an Indian
sponsored fly-off of all the new AC and even the F-15 & F16s. Please
folks, thanks for your opinions but I think I've figured out the big
picture of the F-22 & 35 now.

Bob Nixon.