I'm working with a Cessna 172A, which is the '59 model.

It has a full panel with a pair of KX170s, and an ADF. It has been
modified with the 0-300D engine which supports a vacuum pump.
This is the 6 cylinder engine with Millenium cylinders. I don't think
they add much weight -- but it would be forward if they did.

According to the paperwork, the empty CG is so far forward that
I can barely load it in limits. With one in the front seat, it
requires
a 40# weight in the baggage compartment. With two in the front seats,
I don't think you could put enough weight in the baggage compartment
to get it in limits, tho leaving some gas out does help. With 3 in
the
airplane, it is at gross and in CG but is still close to the forward
limit.

It flies as if the CG is forward. Takes a good effort to really get
it
planted on the main wheels without touching the nosewheel.

It would help me if anyone with an older 172 (or any 172 actually)
would
post their empty weight and CG arm so I can sanity check
the paperwork on this one.

Thanks,
Bill Hale Loveland CO CFI