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Old June 23rd 08, 07:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Victor Bravo
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Default Aeronca 11AC Chief Project FS

OK, since we're soaring through the intellectual stratosphere here, my
reasoning for putting it in both newsgroups is that the homebuilt
types are builders more than just talkers. Builders are somewhat more
likely to be interested in a rebuild project. Considering some of the
non-aviation nonsense that has been offered on the usenet groups,
offering an airplane project in need of a rebuild is not that far of a
stretch.

How would you know that anything I have offered here is a sow's ear ?
There's that ESP again, from one of the self-appointed PC police of
the newsgroup world. If you're not interested in what I am selling
then just delete the message from your computer and don't speak for
anyone else. I happen to horse trade and peddle flying airplanes,
projects, parts, and anything else in aviation I can get my hands on.
Sometimes it's for trading back and forth to get something I want,
other times it's to pay the rent. What's it to you? Who appointed you
to office?

I'm very familiar with your personality type. Your stuff for sale is
gold plated and everyone else's is crap. Anything you think is
valuable is stupendously important, anyone who disagrees is
misinformed. I used to deal with a guy on this newsgroup who had that
attitude, called himself Captain Zoom.

Anyone want to make a wager as to how historically important or
desirable Mr. Weir would position an old tired Chief rebuild project
for sale if it was HIS? Anyone want to bet on how valuable it would be
if it were HIS? Anyone want to guess how much he charges for his time
at the same time as berating anyone else who charges the same amount?

Let's not even talk about your reputation for "abusing newsgroups" by
bullying, endless arguing, and shoving your opinions down everyone's
throat.

The days of five hundred dollar old airplane projects are gone Jim.
They went the same way as $2 avgas, $2 sectional charts, and $25 an
hour for a Cessna 150 rental. You may be right, it may take ten
thousand bucks and months of someone's time to have this Chief
restored. Now with that in mind... look at what a nice Chief is going
for. Look what Cub projects, T-craft projects, and any other classic
projects are listed for.

An 11AC groundloop project with a possibly busted spar... Jim how much
would YOU be offering it for if it was yours? 45 years in the airplane
fixing business... what do YOU charge for a project airplane that you
are not fixing... a grand?

The welding is in fact not 90% completed. My error. It is about half
completed. The owner stopped having the project worked on when he
decided to buy something else. Does that create some mystery or sticky
question in your mind?

On Jun 22, 5:39 pm, "RST Engineering" wrote:
Jim ...

In the first place, this thread belongs in rec.aviation.marketplace. It is
NOT a homebuilt and it is off-topic. I didn't say anything about that.

In the second place, this fellow has a history of abusing this newsgroup
trying to peddle sows' ears at silk purse prices. An 11AC with a possible
busted spar isn't a bargain at giveaway prices, much less the asking price.

So, we have to come up with an engine, some more welding (or re-welding,
depending as you say on the quality, and a question in the back of my mind
as to how the "90% complete" number came to be and why the last 10% hasn't
been done), either a lot of woodwork or a hell of a lot of woodwork
depending, struts, and a complete fabric cover. Plus a lot of bits and
pieces to hold it all together. Would'ja say, roughly, $15k in work?
That's my best estimate, figuring that the spar is a 50-50 proposition.
Somewhere between $12 and $18?

Jim