Mark Hansen wrote:
On 08/07/08 06:21, Sam Spade wrote:

Terence Wilson wrote:


On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:15:04 -0700, Sam Spade
wrote:



You have no idea of what ATC needs to do with you if you cancel on an
IFR climnb to on-top. So, keep it simple, and stay with the IFR
clearance until either above or otherwise clear of the Class B airspace.


On the last two occasions ATC has queried whether I was on top yet and
then asked what my intention was, I cancelled, and continued on my
merry way inside Bravo.

So obviously they were ok with it, but my original question stands, am
I cleared into the class B after I canel in class B?

If my clearance limit for the IFR climb was inside Class B I would
reply, "I request a clearance to outside Class B before I cancel."

It's your butt that's on the line, not their's.

Or, just say "negative" when they ask if you're on top, thus forcing a
clearance out of the quagmire.


I'm confused about why you believe you have to lie about being on top.
When asked for your intentions, why not just say "Remain IFR until
clear of Class Bravo"?


That would work, too.

In any case, my interptretation of when I am legally on top may differ
from your's. The typical kee-jerk response is to "please the
controller" and report on top when just breaking out in the clear.