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Old August 23rd 06, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
John P. Mullen
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Default Lieberman calls on Rumsfeld to resign

Jack Linthicum wrote:

Leadfoot wrote:

One, it's a little late and the timing is a little suspicious.

Two, Joe might need a new job and he would be a leading candidate to replace
Rumsfeld

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060821/...nate_lieberman

Sen. Joe Lieberman, attacked by fellow Democrats as being too close to the
White House on the Iraq War, on Sunday called on Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld to resign but said the United States cannot "walk away" from the
Iraqis.

Lieberman, the one-time Democratic vice presidential candidate, is running
as an independent in his bid for a fourth term since losing the Democratic
nomination to newcomer Ned Lamont, who harnessed voters' anger against the
war in Iraq.

Lieberman, an early supporter of the Iraq war, said he had called for
Rumsfeld to step down in 2003.

"With all respect to Don Rumsfeld, who has done a grueling job for six
years, we would benefit from new leadership to work with our military in
Iraq," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Lieberman said the Bush administration should have sent more troops into
Iraq "to secure the country."

"We had a naive vision that the Iraqis were going to embrace us and then go
on and live happily ever after," he said.

Lieberman said the administration must "put severe pressure on the Iraqis to
contain sectarian violence."

"There is still hope in Iraq and as long as there is we cannot just pick up
and walk away and leave them to the sure disaster that would follow and
would compromise our security in the war on terrorism," he said.

The Lamont campaign issued a statement Sunday criticizing Lieberman for
trying to "paint himself as courageous for clinging to the failed 'stay the
course' policy in Iraq and not listening to the voters of Connecticut on the
need to change course."

"His new found 'criticism' of the war won't convince Connecticut voters
after so many years of stubbornly rubber-stamping Bush's failed policies,"
the statement said.

The war in Iraq was the hallmark of Lamont's primary campaign. He calls for
the withdrawal of U.S. troops from what he often refers to as "a bloody
civil war," and says he believes that those who got America into the
conflict should be held accountable.

Lieberman accused Lamont of distorting his stance on Iraq.

"He made me into a cheerleader for George Bush and everything that's
happened," Lieberman said. "And the record shows that, while I believe we
did the right thing in overthrowing Saddam Hussein, I've been very critical
over the years, particularly in 2003 and 2004, about the failure to send
enough American troops to secure the country, about the absence of adequate
plans and preparation to deal with post-Saddam Iraq."

"As bad as things are now - and they've gotten worse in the last six
months - it would be a disaster if America set a deadline and said we're
getting all of our troops out by a given date," Lieberman said. "That's a
position Ned Lamont has taken."

Tom Swan, campaign manager for Lamont, said Sunday the campaign stands by
its criticism of Lieberman as being too close to President Bush.

Asked about Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who was quoted as saying that
Lieberman echoes Republicans, Lieberman said it was "just plain politics by
somebody who has ambitions of his own."

"I voted 90 percent of the time with a majority of Democrats in the U.S.
Senate," he said.

"I'm worried that my party may become what we've accused the Republicans of,
a kind of litmus-test party," he said. "If you don't agree with us 100
percent of the time, you don't agree with us. I'm devoted to the Democratic
Party."

A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Lamont is trailing Lieberman by 12
percentage points among likely voters. It said much of Lieberman's advantage
comes from his popularity among Republicans and unaffiliated voters, the
largest voting block in Connecticut.



Although Lieberman may or may not have called for Rumsfeld to step down
in 2003 in May of 2004, in the pages of the Wall Street Journal he
wrote:

"Most Democrats and Republicans, including President Bush and Sen.
Kerry, agree that we must successfully finish what we have started in
Iraq. Now is the time for all who share that goal to make our agreement
publicly clear, to stress what unites us. Many argue that we can only
rectify the wrongs done in the Iraqi prisons if Donald Rumsfeld
resigns. I disagree. Unless there is clear evidence connecting him to
the wrongdoing, it is neither sensible nor fair to force the
resignation of the secretary of defense, who clearly retains the
confidence of the commander in chief, in the midst of a war. I have yet
to see such evidence. Secretary Rumsfeld's removal would delight
foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq. "


Well, I don't see him winning.

Blaming Lamont for his website crashing is, to say the least, uncool and
not the behavior one would expect of a seasoned legislator. Last I
heard, he hasn't apologized, either.

He's not yet on the ticket. I hear his is doing OK with the signatures,
getting about 80% valid, but there is still the matter of the petition
circulaters. They must be registered voters in Connecticut. That will
be harder to check, but if he used out of state help, he probably won't
make the cut.

And, his recent public statements don't seem to be helping. According
to the article below, he has gone from leading Lamont by 10 points to a
statistical tie in just one week.

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Lieberman, Lamont Are Tied in American Research Group Survey

By Kristin Jensen

Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, who's running
for re-election as an independent, is in a statistical tie with
Democratic primary winner Ned Lamont, according to a poll taken by the
American Research Group Inc. in the past five days.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...rrA&refer=home

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John Mullen