AviationBanter - View Single Post - Phrase "landing runway" vs. "cleared to land"

**kontiki** · January 15th 08, 07:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr

wrote:

I had NO CLUE where the planes actually were in relation to the
airport. I didn't know if they were two minutes out or ten. A bit
disconcerting when you want to take the active and fly the pattern. If
wishes were horses this beggar would ask that IFR pilots report their
positions (during VFR conditions) in a way us poor VFR only morons
could understand.

Might be safer for all ... maybe might maybe ...

Well perhaps you might take the time to gain a bit of knowledge
regarding IFR approach terminology.... might be safer for all... maybe.

The fact is that it may be VFR at pattern altitude but there
may very well be aircraft flying an real instrument approach
above an overcast layer. Approach control will do their best
to release them to advisory so they can hear and talk to folks
in the pattern but it behooves all pilots to become versed in
the locations of local fixes or navaids in the area for safety
reasons.