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Old July 16th 09, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default Light gun work with ATC COMS - Video

BeechSundowner wrote:
On Jul 16, 3:41 am, Sam Spade wrote:


So, you are saying I need a clearance to land when NORDO and proceeding
under the provisions of 91.185?



Correct. I am sure you know clearance for an approach is NOT a
clearance to land. I don't see anything in the above that says I am
allowed to land (hence the light signals).

No light signals, no clearance to land. I better be squawking 7700 if
I plan to land without a LANDING clearance. The above pertains to
enroute and approach clearances.


I beg to differ with you. When operating under 91.185 you don't have an
approach clearance any more than you have a landing clearance. If your
destination airport has an operating control tower and conditions are
IMC you don't need a landing clearance any more than you need an
approach clearance. If, however, the Class D area is VMC to the extent
that it is safe to enter the VFR traffic pattern that would be the
prudent thing to do.

Under IMC, so long as you can comply with 91.185 you're expected to
sqawk 7600, not 7700. And, perhaps the transponder isn't working
either. If it is, and you have sufficient time, listening on VOR voice
might find ATC soliciting ident replies to new clearances.