"K l e i n" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:
K l e i n wrote:
I think the appropriate maneuver for this situation from the
Commercial
Pilot syllabus would be half of a lazy-8.
Why not a simple steep turn? It's easy to pre-calculate the turn radius
for
a given airspeed, bank angle, and crosswind component. In this case, they
had plenty of room if they'd planned and executed the turn properly.

They tried and failed to perform a simple steep turn because they
apparently did not precalculate the maneuver.

Or they precalculated incorrectly, or they calculated correctly but executed
it poorly.

The PIC was a PP and presumably not yet schooled in the lazy-8,

Has anyone established which of the pair was the PIC? The NTSB report said
nothing about that.

however the CFI obviously possessed a Commercial ticket and presumably
was schooled in this maneuver. The lazy-8 is not an aerobatic maneuver
and
the Cirrus would have been capable of performing it.

Sure, but beforehand there'd have been no reason to plan to do a half-lazy-8
rather than a steep turn; and by the time they knew their turn wasn't going
to turn out well, it was probably too late to do anything else.

p.s. I have performed lots of lazy-8's in aircraft ranging from
gliders to Turbo Commanders. The maneuver is easy, beautiful and lots
of fun.

Yup.

--Gary