Edward Downham wrote:

I would tend to side with Don here.

Given a choice between exceeding Vne or the placard 'g' loading, I would go for
pulling hard every time.

Does "pulling hard" mean: a) pulling hard on the stick, or b) pulling
"high Gs"? There is a big difference!

To use an example, the K-21 has a Vne of 280Kph/151Kts and declared flight
manual 'g' limits of +5.3/-4.0.

My manual, as do many, show a _reduced_ allowable G load at increasing
speeds, going from 5.3 G (Va) to only 4 G at Vne.

That makes Vd around 166Kts. The design 'g'
limits work out as 8/-6 and it is unlikely to fail at that point.

"Unlikely"? How about gusts or simultaneous control deflections (say, a
bit of rudder or aileron)? Have you talked to a Schleicher designer (or
any designer) about this, or are you speculating?


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