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Old November 19th 03, 02:13 AM
John
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You are missing something.
Yes if you take the feeling of the fly, a pc cant give you this =
feeling.
But there are other things, especialy in online simulation.
Your enemy is real humans. They are clever, they learn day by day,
they do immelmans,hi yo-yos,low yo-yos,scissors,barrels, you need
SA to the limits when you are in the meadle of 15 enemy fighters,
you need to know ballistics to shoot angles (WWII sim) you learn
wingman tactics,squadron tactics,bombing ,dogfighting, with no real =
planes,
BUT very near to the real ones.(flying characteristics).
One thing is real at the online sims. The feaver of the battle with your =
human
enemies. Real pilots use real tactics there with near to real planes.
Especialy in WWII sim's you dont fight with buttons. You fight with REAL
Energy Management tactics, all props are underpowered,Real T&B tactics,
and in general you need to Know Real Combat Manuvers and flying theory
to survive.And ofcourse you need to know your plane and your enemy plane.
And more than everything you need to know how to shoot this devil infrond
of you at 400y who never stay steady.
We miss the real feeling of the flight witch a pc cant give you. Yet.


On 18 Nov 2003 17:02:33 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Anonymous"
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Date: 11/18/03 7:07 AM Pacific Standard Time


But I still wouldn't class MSFS as a game simply because it isn't =

capable of
offering what a real aircraft or a purpose-built
multi-million =A3/$ aircraft simulator can.


MSFS can teach you things. But it is a game that can teach you things. =

Of all
the responses I got to my oirst post mostly insulting flames and =

personal
attacks most refused to accept the fact that it wasn't flying and =

resented it
being called a game. It is a damned computewr game. When you sit at your
computer you are not flying anything. You are playing a computer game. =

It had
educational benefits, biut it is still a game. If all you ever know =

about
entering a pattern you learn from MSFS, you are in deep troub;le. Very =

deep
trouble.If the only IFR you ever learn is from MSFS you are in deep =

trouble.
If youi have no air time but thousands of hours on MSFS, you still can't=

fly a
damn thing except FS. And that amounts to the fact that you have become=

good
at a game. Nothing more. It also shows that reality is slipping away =

from many
on this NG. Or maybe it was never there.But your post takes a more =

balanced
view without a flame in sight.Thank you for that..

Arthur Kramer
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