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Old August 10th 03, 12:33 AM
Tom Cooper
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"José Herculano" wrote in message .. .
All...I was wondering: have there been any guns-only air to air kills by

US
aircraft since SE Asia?
As an aside, what are the thoughts of those who have been in combat? Are

guns
on board nostalga, or, are they a practical weapon?


2 kills by A-10 over helos on DS only... but:

a) The Israelis have got air-to-air gun kills with both F-16 and F-15;


Add to this several gun-kills scored by (US-built) F-4s, F-5s, and
F-14s in Iranian service, during the war with Iraq, in the 1980s.

As a matter of fact, the first kill ever scored by an F-14 was against
an Iraqi Mi-25 (export version of the Mi-24 "Hind"), shot down on 7
September 1980, by 20mm gunfire.

Iranian F-4s also scored their last known kill of that war (and thus
for all the Phantoms ever) with the gun: an Iraqi Su-22M-3K, in May
1988.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq; War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.schifferbooks.com/militar...764316699.html

Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585