Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Jarg"
Date: 11/18/03 9:16 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: m

Perhaps it is time for you to give us a definition of game vs. simulator.
Because you seem to be saying that if you sit at a desk and use a simulator
it is a game vs. going to someplace else and using a simulator when it
becomes legitimate.

Jarg

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Anonymous"
Date: 11/18/03 7:07 AM Pacific Standard Time

But I still wouldn't class MSFS as a game simply because it isn't capable
of
offering what a real aircraft or a purpose-built
multi-million £/$ aircraft simulator can.

MSFS can teach you things. But it is a game that can teach you things. Of
all
the responses I got to my oirst post mostly insulting flames and
personal
attacks most refused to accept the fact that it wasn't flying and resented
it
being called a game. It is a damned computewr game. When you sit at your
computer you are not flying anything. You are playing a computer game. It
had
educational benefits, biut it is still a game. If all you ever know about
entering a pattern you learn from MSFS, you are in deep troub;le. Very
deep
trouble.If the only IFR you ever learn is from MSFS you are in deep
trouble.
If youi have no air time but thousands of hours on MSFS, you still can't
fly a
damn thing except FS. And that amounts to the fact that you have become
good
at a game. Nothing more. It also shows that reality is slipping away from
many
on this NG. Or maybe it was never there.But your post takes a more
balanced
view without a flame in sight.Thank you for that..

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer





A sumulator simulates to the full extent of the flying experience It is what
the airlines use to train and check pilot proficiencey. It is what the Air
Force uses for the same purpose. It must have full and complete instrumentation
that works with total accuracy. It must have a fully functioning column with
the " feel" the original plane through the controls. Comparing MSFS to an
airline or Air Force simulator is like comparing a plastic toy pistol to a Uzi.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer