On Mar 20, 3:43*pm, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:
William Black wrote :
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Mar 20, 10:21 am, William Black
wrote:
It's not an acronym, *it's a code word.
Well I missed that memo.
You're not kidding.
After 2-3 years he wrote a stack of reports that would fill a
filing cabinet, probably still classified.
Oh no they won't be.
In canuckistan it's secret or once declassified it's burned, didn't
you
get the memo.
********.
It's filed away and released when of no interest to anyone but
historians.
Exactly.
My father's last post before retirement was as the Senior Research
Officer in the Directorate of History of NDHQ in Ottawa from about *'71
to '82. One of his secondary duties was directorate security officer. As
such, he was responsible for more classified documents than anyone else
in NDHQ, and he, under the instructions of the Director, controled access
to every classifed document in RG24 at the National Archives. They had
tonnes of documents in 600 filing cabinets and safes in the Ogilvie Annex
of NDHQ, and every six months he had to go through a classified document
muster.
My father's magnum opus in his last years was to help draft the Access to
Information Act's declassification sections. He did it with a view to
releasing as much as possible as soon as possible, because he knew that
keeping secrets is expensive. However, he knew that some secrets might
have to be kept forever. (I suspect that the "forever" secrets have more
to do with our allies than our erstwhile enemies.)
Many commanders in chief weren't given ULTRA access.
Old Boy told me he was a corporal,
So he didn't actually have any access at all.
Corporals working on BIGOT material likely only handled envelopes and
folders, or PA'ed documents to file and little else.
I presume said personel were ordered to provide full
cooperation, so he wouldn't need to give a rat's ass about ULTRA,
except how effective it was, to feedback into the chain of command,
his duties in that respect were more than clerical.
You mean he was an intelligence clerk.
Tucker appears to have woven an old boy's yarn into whole cloth.
RCAF trained him for a year in Pathfinder Navigation prior to making
him a de-briefer,
Not a chance.
Anyone the RCAF took the trouble to train as a navigator went on to
flying duties--unless he washed out for medical or other reasons.
Aircrew were all promoted to sergeant on selection.
and navigation involves a lot of secret stuff, so he
likely ended up knowing more about ULTRA than ULTRA did,
Take it from me, *anyone selected for aircrew training wouldn't have
been allowed within a mile of ULTRA
And any secret stuff people on flying duties saw had a very, very short
shelf life.
*where
results are concerned, and then write a synopsis for strategists,
based on de-briefing from fielded and experienced personel.
Corporals don't.
Barges are ultra cheap, especially when they're empty.
And so easy to sink, *especially at night.
But look at what you're risking, to sink a cheap barge.
Barges son, *barges...
Now look up how good the Germans were at sinking ships with bombs at
that date.
As good or better than anyone.
Nope.
They had some real problems sinking anything. *They could hit some
stuff standing still, *but at Dunkirk, bombing stationary ships, their
performance was dreadful.
You don't know what the Military Canal is do you?
Mr. Black
Well we had lakefront property on Lk Ontario, the Englosh Channel is
what
the girls liked to swim across too.
The Military Canal is not the Channel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Military_Canal
It's not getting into it, *it's getting out.
You're getting a good demonstration of how resistant Canadian brick
masonry is to logic, William.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
Never underestimate the power of the EM's mess and the Club to
circulate all of the material that is handled so carefully, out into
the civilian access area. Corporals make flight schedules and arrange
meetings and sometimes are given the minutes of the previous meeting
and the outline of the next. Not really classified, above your office
level, but informative to one who hears things in the office to fill
in the gaps.