On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:34:56 GMT, Bill Zaleski
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:45:29 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:51:25 GMT, Bill Zaleski
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:06:50 -0700, Sylvain wrote:

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
I can't find that statement specifically in the regs, although in John
Lynch's FAQ's regarding Part 61,

thanks a bunch! I feel silly not to have looked for it in
the FAQ first (the fact that there is an entry in the
FAQ on this very subject would tend to show that the regs
by themselves are a wee bit ambiguous :-) )

--Sylvain



A ground instructor can give the training, but cannot sign off an IPC.
Sounds a little strange, but true. Only a CFII can endorse the IPC.
This information was taught at Oklahoma City during the initial pilot
examiner certification course. You can look at FAR 61.215 and see
that it is not included within the priveliges afforded ground
instructors.

How about if the IPC is given in a sim?


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Doesn't change anything. A ground instructor's priveliges are
specified in 61.215. Endorsing an IPC is not one of them.

OK -- now I have to go back and try to find what I was vaguely remembering
....

That's contrary to what Lynch writes in Q&A315

"... The term "authorized instructor" was intentionally used in § 61.57(d)
because authorization to conduct an instrument proficiency check is not
limited to a CFII. A Ground Instructor Certificate - Instrument Rating is
also an "authorized instructor" and is authorized to give the instrument
proficiency check in an approved flight training device."

Lynch also lists some other, non-CFII types that are authorized to give
IPC's under certain circumstances.

Having written that, I agree with you that 61.215(c) is contrary to what
Lynch writes in that it mentions only the "training" and if the FAA wanted
to allow IGI's to give IPC's in FTD's, they could have specifically so
stated in that section.

So it seems this is another area of Lynch's FAQ's that should be changed.

But let me check the most recent version -- the one I was looking was 2003.

....

Nope -- unchanged in 2005. I'll send him an email.

"onward through the fog"


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)