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Old October 27th 07, 02:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Boeing Considering Ford Hydrogen Powered Engine For HALE UAV

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:15:17 GMT, wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:49:47 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
Richard Riley wrote:

There's more energy available in a pound of liquid hydrogen than in a
pound of any conventional hydrocarbon like jet fuel. The LE (Long
Endurance) part of HALE is the basic design goal.

A pound of LH2 has about 2.6 times as much energy as a pound of
gasoline.

The temperature at 65k isn't significantly different from 50k - jet
fuel would work fine.


But when you weigh in with the tanking required to keep the stuff, the
net system energy (fuel + tank) gets out of hand. Hydrocarbons are
orders of magnitude more dense than LH2 and do not require special
containers or special purging of fuel lines to get rid of air, nitrogen
and water. LH2 will freeze all of the above and reacts violently with
FROX (frozen oxygen).

Hydrogen leaks burn clear and hot, too!

To purge LH2 lines, you first flush with dry nitrogen, followed by a
helium flush, to get rid of the nitrogen, then gaseous H2.

It not an inexpensive process, and widespread use would severely impact
the world supply of helium.


If that's the case, what would be your guess as to why Boeing is
considering a hydrogen fueled HALE?


A niche device with limited production where such things are of
minimal concern maybe?


With all due respect, are you saying that Boeing choose a hydrogen
fueled engine for their HALE, because they are unconcerned with its
complexity due to its possible limited production?