At 16:23 21 September 2018, Scott Manley wrote:
Paul T

My replies are embedded in your message below.

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Yeah at great expense to myself, sorry but I cannot afford to
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transantlantic telephone calls

I had no idea you were international. I assumed you were within the
U.S.
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nd simply offered the usual ways of communicating. Now that I know
you
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international, and assuming you are still interested in my opinions on
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subject, I would suggest you download and install Skype. It costs
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to install and nothing to use. My Skype ID is "scooter.manley". You
woul=
d need to send me a contact request that I would accept, allowing us
to
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municate via Skype.

- there was no accusatory tone - asked a=20
simple question that's all=20

Over my ten plus years of advocating for the use of flight simulation to
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prove glider flight training using computer-based software (Condor),
the
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ea has been met with various levels of passive resistance. My
experience
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has been that when someone asks for "evidence", they are more likely
lookin=
g to refute my claims than looking for information. So forgive me for
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g gun-shy.

dont see why that can't be answered. Think=20
you are getting a bit oversensitiveness and reading things into
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that aren't there .

Guilty. =20

My reluctance to respond on a public forum is based on your
experience
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ng a question on a public forum. =20

The guy stated this was his business

Pretty sure I didn't state that.

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claims in a public forum -

While it might be "assumed" by my post that the flight training
services I
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provide are my business, they are not. I do not solicit nor have I ever
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cepted offers of payment for the services I provide. The training
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s I have developed and make available on my website (gliderCFI.com)
are
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e for the taking. I do not even ask for attribution. I do what I do for
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I merely asked if he had any evidence for that

Nothing that could be considered irrefutable, only my perception of my
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rience with the 70 or so folks I have trained over the last 10-12 years.
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any of those folks are happy to back up my claims with their
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and what the average time saving was - surely a simple answer like'
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my experience for the 50 students that have used this method -
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average student can save 2 -4 hours on R/L training' would have=20
answered the question - cannot see why that is so hard to do?

The answer is not as simple as you would imagine, but I'll give it a
shot.

Time savings:
In one sense, simulation-based trainees will spend considerably more
time
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often orders of magnitude more) performing and perfecting their flight
skil=
ls than do aircaft-based trainees. For example, it is possible in
simulati=
on to perform 20-30 crosswind landings in the span of one hour.
Compare
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at to the time needed to acquire that same level of experience in an
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aircraft. While the brains of aircraft-based trainees may have 10-30
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s of flight experience upon earning their rating, the brains of
simulation-=
based trainees will have hundreds of hours of experience.

In simulation, there is no time spent waiting around for your chance to
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..

If the training is done at-a-distance (over the internet) there is no
trave=
l time to/from the airport.

Simulation-based training is not limited to the available days/hours of
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ration of a club or commercial operation. It can be done any time of
the
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ay, any day of the week, any month of the year, and with student and
instru=
ctor anywhere in the world.

I could go on, but this post is already running long, and long posts are
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noying.

Cost savings:
Computer-based flight training costs next to nothing and pales in
compariso=
n to the costs of conducting aircraft-based flight training. If you are
lo=
oking to provide low-cost flight training, as you describe below, you
can't=
beat simulation.

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For more of my thoughts on the use of flight simulation to improve
glider
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light training (and so you don't even have to install Skype and talk to
me)=
, I would encourage you to read the 26 articles I wrote for Soaring
Magazin=
e over the span of 4.5 years. They are available on my website under
the
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Condor/Condor Corner" drop-down menu.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration. =20


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If you wish to know the reason for this - is that I with some friends
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thinking of establishing a gliding club in Bulgaria - Bulgaria is one
of
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poorest countries in the EU - we would like to establish a club that
the
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a
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person on an average income can afford to fly - average incomes are
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in Bulgaria @ 400euro/month - so any money savings saved in
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would be beneficial and it may pay to use a simulator in the
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syllabus.



Thank you Scott - apologies about the misunderstanding about being
your business and for maybe my phrasing of the original question - I
shall read the articles and be in touch on 'Skype'. I am genuinely
interested to know what time/cost savings this type of training can
make.