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Old May 8th 09, 08:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default "PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"

On May 8, 1:38*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On May 7, 1:09 pm, "Keith Willshaw"

wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in ...

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As a back-drop, 27 years ago,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet#Falklands_Conflict
(Seems like yesterday).


Delivered by aircraft as a standoff weapon, the target identification
was down on board the aircraft.


Keith, I was rather hoping the "27 years ago" might
be a hint.
...

It's a bit difficult to hide a CVN from a satellite.


Sure but getting real time location from a satellite is difficult and
VERY expensive


This works, it's civilian,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADARSAT-1



1) Any given low earth recon birds will only revisit any given spot
at infrequent periods typically *measured in daysor at best *hours
rather than minutes


2) Standard recon satellites use optical or infrared methods which
limits their effectiveness in case of clud cover


3) Even if your satellite happens to fly over *a CVN you have to
have people analysing the data in real time.


To get round the problems the Soviets launched a whole series
of Radar satellites (RORSAT). These were BIG and typically
powered by type BES-5 nuclear reactors. They weighed in at
around 4 tons and to get decent coverage of even a fairly small
part of the planet they had to launch a whole constellation of
them at vast expense.


AFAIK there have been no such satelllites in service for more
than a decade.


Today, using conventional ordinance, an MRBM
put in the ballpark of a CVN will terminal guide to a
probable direct hit, even choosing where to hit.

If the CVN+fleet is converted into a floating nuke
strike base, it becomes #1 target to MIRV, as in
10 100kt bombs detonated over a fleet.
...

I deviated the topic to F-35 (nuke able) for the navy
is to be absolutely unnecessary and of nil usefulness.
(The A-5 Vigilante again).
I'll go further, all nuke weapons should be banned by
treaty from international waters and air space.
Ken


There goes the US nuclear deterrent
Keith


Maybe the nuke subs lurkin' off the US coasts on hair
trigger can go home, if it's ok with American citizens.
Ken


You must have missed Cheney's memo. Its all peace love and
tranquility. Ed has long hair, throws rose petals. They all luv us. no
more hair triggers.

Now, it takes what minutes to get back to a hair trigger alert, but
most people don't understand that.

Guess the politicians are happy. Slip them another beer.