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Old May 10th 08, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
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Default The Swedish Model: How to build a jet fighter.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:26:43 +0200, "Roger Conroy"
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"Dan" wrote in message
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Douglas Eagleson wrote:
On May 9, 4:57 pm, Dan wrote:
Douglas Eagleson wrote:

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The russian mig-30 that literally stops in mid

flight and recovers, is another example. A forward canard allows this.
The "cobra" maneuver is not a very good combat move. Do a simple
free body diagram to see what happens to acceleration and velocity
vectors. The MiG is a sitting duck throughout the maneuver and takes a
long time to recover.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

The maneuver is obviously only a technical ability.


It's only good for air shows.

As dog fighting
goes a well planned first approach with missles always wins.


Not always. What happens if the missile fails to perform or the target
outmaneuvers it?


A dogfight as a rule can be forced with the lost aircraft. A sucker
aircraft and absorb/take the radar.


Please translate.



after this occur a true missilefree dogfight happens.

All free battle has an AMERICAN superior first strike built in. If
this is lost, then what happens is a secondary senario occurs. An
litteral aircraft to aircraft and attritionloss war. When attrition
dictates a winner what happens?

All wars are a function of attrition.


It might not always be readily apparent but not all wars involve Americans
either.
But why are we arguing with a bot anyway?

Perhaps not directly, but since the US is the number one Arms Dealer
in the world, perhaps we are if even just by proxy.

So large air battle planning fails when aircraft performance only
dictates.


Not to put to fine a point on things, but ALL battle planning is limited
to by the assets on hand to include available technology.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


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