PJ wrote:

wrote:

Standard practice is to wait until you have a positive rate of climb
before raising the flaps. Raising the flaps if the airplane was on
the verge of a stall would be a big mistake. Lowering the nose and
applying full power would be the best course of action, and once a
positive rate of climb could be achieved, then the flaps could be
raised.

But they were too low to lower trhe nose and in otrher words were fuc...

First, the stick shaker is fired based on airspeed to give warning of an
impending stall. The aircraft is still several knots above stall speed
when it goes off. It hasn't yet stalled.

Second, they were at about 1600 ft AGL, meaning they had plenty of altitude
to recover, assuming the PF took the proper action. When he pulled up in
reaction to the stick shaker, the aircraft actually did stall, with the
nose up 30 degrees, and it rolled sharply to the left. At that point, they
were fuc...