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Old September 30th 07, 07:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Rob Arndt[_2_]
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Default Seaplane Resurgence?

On Sep 30, 11:42?am, Rob Arndt wrote:
On Sep 30, 8:09?am, Jack Linthicum
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On Sep 30, 11:00 am, "Brian Sharrock" wrote:


"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message


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On Sep 29, 9:52 pm, Dan wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
On Sep 29, 6:04?pm, Eeyore
wrote:
Rob Arndt wrote:
The Soviet-era Ekranoplans were comparable to seaplanes
Not at all similar.


The Ekranoplans flew only in ground effect.


Graham


A technicality at best.


Ekranoplans are planes and are sea-based, so they are only a DIFFERENT
type of seaplane.


You can't call them flying ships- they are WIG aviation.


Rob


Oh, please, seaplanes can fly overland, fly at altitude, don't have
to go around islands, can fly over rough seas and a few other things
WIGs can't do. Even you should be able to see that, xenia.


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Here's a display of what it says is the latest on the Ekranoplans.
Since I was the guy who named them I consider the idea to be mine. I
would guess somewhere in the Russian realm or working a deli in
Brooklyn is someone who could explain why the Sovs chose the Caspian
for basing this bugger. No way out, no use except thrill rides,
pictures and exciting Western intelligence people.


Probably for a similar reason that in the UK a flooded quarry in Somerset
was the site for testing Sonar kit. No way out ... or in ! Isn't that the
raison d'etre for Area 51?


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Brian


No more Area 51, seems to have picked up and moved elsewhere. Somewhat
logical as the new research is in pilotless aircraft. I have heard
that the Dugway Proving grounds in Utah got some of the action and the
former launch sites for the ABM tests in Utah-Colorado to White Sands
some more.


I recently visited the Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville, Or. The
big feature is the Hughes Hercules, which I had seen in Long Beach,
but my big moment was the D-21. Drone "boy companion" to the
Blackbird, I worked with the guy who did the contract finalization for
it and the SR-71. The thing was so secret in 1967 or so that we
couldn't label folders with the Codeword for the project and it was
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Area 51, or components thereof, have been placed at all of these other
locations:

DPG: Dugway Proving Grounds
MAAF: Michael Army Airfield
UTTR: Utah Test & Training Range
TAD: Tooele Army Depot
DCD: Desert Chemical Depot
HAFB/HIL: Hill Air Force Base
Area 6413: Green River Complex- White Sands Missile Range
Lakeside Air Force Bombing Range
USCB: U.S. Space Command Base

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Note: Area 6413 is supposed to be Area 64-13= 51

Rob