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Old April 12th 05, 07:33 PM
Michael
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Matt Barrow wrote:
My experience is that a glass panel is MUCH less demanding in

actual
IMC than a traditional steam gauge panel. It's the glass panel

pilot
who needs an extensive checkout to go steam gauges, not the other

way
around.


Probably so, due to the very different scan requirements.

Thing is, here and now/today, how many expereinced pilots came up on

steam
gauges vs. EFIS?


You know, a friend of mine remembers an FBO (many years ago) where
anyone could rent a taildragger, but there were minimum hour
requirements to rent a tri-gear airplane. That was because all the
trikes were expensive and new, while the taildraggers were old and
cheap - and anyway, everyone learned on taildraggers so it was no big
deal. Didn't last, of course.

Sure, right now most people learn on steam gauges. But with the
trainers coming out with glass panels, this won't last. I'm just
waiting for someone to set up a glass-panel C-172 (or equivalnet) with
a pair of 430's for nav and no external CDI, and advertise his
minimum-hours instrument rating. No partial panel. No NDB. No DME.
No compass turns. No timed turns. If the PFD fails, just drive the
little airplane around on the GPS screen as you follow the purple line.
Just wait...

One thing I found harder to get used to was adapting/making changes

_in
flight_ under the EFIS system (when I was new to it).


What changes are there to make if all you are using is the direct-goto
and VOR-ILS functionality? This is my point - if you use the flight
plan feature and the other advanced features, then yes, making changes
in flight is tougher. But if you simply set up the system to give you
the minimum functionality that you get from steam gauges, you never
have to change a thing in flight except the destination waypoint or
VOR/LOC frequency - and the steam gauge pilot can do that.

Yes, but that doesn't addres WHY so much training is on the glass

screens,
compared to actually flying the fast, slippeery aircraft.


Because the training aims for full functionality, which is necessary
for safe flight in those fast and slippery aircraft. It wouldn't be an
issue if they were only teaching basic functionality.

And the discussion is not about flying a 182 under IFR, it's about

flying a
totally different avionics system under IFR.


Irrelevant - it's still a C-182. Therefore it doesn't matter what
avionics you have - they ALL give you minimum functionality easily, and
for the C-182 the minimum functionality is all you need.

Michael