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Perhaps an example from "nospam" of an actual plate would be more
instructive.

Take a look at the ILS to RWY 24 and (K)CRQ

Had to look in the old logbook. Haven't flown there since 6/27/1974. Wonder
if it's changed much.


This is where I saw the missed. It is not a good example as the missed
takes you out over the ocean and in fact either way you look at it, it
would be safe.

You transcribed the meaning incorrectly. It says "Climb to 3000 via heading
245 and OCN R-145 to OCN VORTAC", which is, in essence, what I said I would
do. It doesn't say climb to 3000 on a heading of 245 and tben intercept. It
gives you a route (heading 245 and OCN R-145 to OCN) and an altitude
(3000')to climb to.



I'm just trying to understand in the general sense what the rules are.
In reading the recent AOPA magazine it had a sumary of accidents in
CA and one was someone getting a radar vector and assuming that he
could let down to the crossing altitude of the next segment.
He did this at night and it was fatal.

I understand that not understanding the subleties of what the rules
are for flying IFR can also be Fatal so I'm just trying to understand.

Another approach with a similar missed that is unlclear:

KCNO ILS RWY 26R

Gee, more of my old stomping grounds. I soloed at Chino on 1/16/1974.


Missed:
Climb to 1400 then climbing left turn to 4000 direct PDZ and hold.

This is also crystal clear and not at all similar. You climb to 1400 and
then continue a climb while turning direct to PDZ. There is no possibility
of overshooting a radial that needs to be intercepted.


Looking at the plate missed seems to be about 4 mi from PDZ.
DH is 836 so at 200ft /mi 1400 gets you to 6 mi from PDZ
Assume that the turn gives you another 200 ft thats 1600 and 6 miles
at 200 per nm that gets you to PDZ and 2800.

The missed specifies 4000

So keep climbing. Don't worry, SoCal Approach will be asking you about your
climb rate, and the initial climb to 1400 seems to be chosen to get you high
enough.


So what do you do hold at PDZ and climb to 4000?

Yep. Next time in your thought experiments, don't fly a C-150 under IFR with
full fuel and extra passengers in the baggage compartment and you'll climb
faster


Again in this specific case it looks like that would be safe.

yep!

cheers
-Greg