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Mike Rapoport wrote:

OK, if ATC was unable to accommodate the request (to stay clear of the
cloud), would you come here ranting about their incompetence? Do you
think
the airline pilots would?


I'll concede him one point. He stated he attempted to pick-up his IFR
clearance from ABQ earlier en route but they wouldn't provide service
unless he
accepted routing towards Drake, higher terrain, and worse weather. That
is an
ugly pattern that has grown worse over the years, sterilization of western
U.S.
Victor airways for MOAs even when they are likely not in use.


Anybody who files IFR from Las Vegas to Pheonix has to expect to go over
DRK.

Mike
MU-2