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Old September 14th 18, 09:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Thompson[_2_]
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Default Too many accidents

Referring to the ASK21 TM4b, publicly available on the
AS site. I see on page 4 : "By following the spin ballast
table a c.g. of approx. 406 mm (16 inch) is set in for the
flight."

As far as I can tell from other data, this is not the aft
limit. I believe the aft limit is 469mm.

The USAF spinning tests are well documented in the
technical note flight manual and discusses inertia effects
as well as just CG position effects. 406mm is aft enough.



At 23:32 13 September 2018, Andreas Maurer wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT), krasw
wrote:

maanantai 10. syyskuuta 2018 16.54.53 UTC+3

kirjoitti:
Un-spinable? You might want to watch this and look

up the USAF report
conducted on the spin characteristics of the ASK-21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXH6XDxQdPY


ASK21 is unspinable unless you equip with spin kit

designed to move cg
well aft of normal limits. Without this kit you cannot

spin 21.

One addition:
The spin weights put the CG to the normal aft limit, but

not beyond
it.
This is the same CG that you would have if a light pilot

flies without
a copilot.

With the spin weights the ASK-21 is an excellent spin

trainer.


Cheers
Andreas