I suspect that the 182's shorter landing performance has more to do with its
better flaps and consequent lower approach speed than with ground effect.

Mike
MU-2

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:40:26 GMT, john smith wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:06:16 GMT, john smith wrote in
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I don't think Jay is going to be flying over Pike's Peak (14,110 feet)
unless he gets a Cessna. :-)
Service Ceiling PA28-235 ... 13,550
Service Ceiling C182.........17,700


He should be glad he didn't purchase a Charger:
http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprote...erf_1475B.html

Cessna doesn't reveal the Skylane's useful load:
http://skylane.cessna.com/spec_perf.chtml


Is the Piper or Cessna able to carry the most payload with full tanks?

keeping in mind that these are 1974 models...
Pathfinder 182
average equipped new list price $36,490 $30,475
current values $63,000 $79,000
price appreciation factor 172% 259%
gross weight (lbs) 3,000 2,950
empth weight (lbs) 1,550 1,645
useful load (lbs) 1,450 1,305
horsepower 235 230
power loading (lbs/hp) 12.8 12.8
wing loading (lbs/sqft) 17.6 16.9
Service Ceiling (ft) 13,550 17,700
total fuel capacity (gal) 82 79
payload, max fuel (lbs) 958 831
cruise speed, 75% (kts) 133 139
best rate of climb SL (fpm) 800 890
Vso 52 50
takeoff run (ft) 850 705
landing run (ft) 1,040 590

The Skylane carries about 150 pounds less, at 4-1/2% greater speed, to
a 3,150' higher altitude, with a substantially shorter landing run due
to the Pathfinder's more pronounced ground-effect, and it has two
doors. If the Pathfinder were loaded 150 pounds lighter, it would
reduce the difference between it and the Skylane. If the performance
numbers were the sole criteria in selecting between the two, who could
argue against the Skylane? It even has better sagebrush clearance and
a rain porch, and for photography and pipeline work, ...

Have you got any cabin dimensions?