On Jul 8, 8:23*pm, (Alan) wrote:
In article Andy writes:





On Jul 8, 11:45=A0am, Paul Jessop wrote:
You're clearly eligible for one (as you have an ICAO compliant glider
licence/license/certificate and I assume you have 5h PIC in the last year=
)

There may be a small catch here. *It is my understanding that most US
pilot certificates are not ICAO compliant since they do not include
the statement that the pilot is proficient in English. *New
certificates include the endorsement.

"Background: Effective March 5, 2008, ICAO Annex 1 (Personnel
Licensing) standards require that all private, commercial or ATPs as
well as FEs and flight navigators operating internationally as
required crewmembers of an airplane or helicopter have an airman
certificate with an endorsement of language proficiency. In the case
of persons holding a U.S. airman certificate, the language proficiency
endorsement will state =93English Proficient=94

So Papa3 you may need to get a new FAA certificate before you try to
use it as a basis for getting a BGA certificate.

Andy

* Probably not. *From *http://www.luchtzak.be/forums/viewto...p?f=14&t=38606

* *Effective March 5, 2008, ICAO Annex 1 (Personnel Licensing) standards
* *require that all private, commercial or ATPs as well as FEs and flight
* *navigators operating internationally as required crewmembers of an airplane
* *or helicopter have an airman certificate with an endorsement of language
* *proficiency. *In the case of persons holding a U.S. *airman certificate,
* *the language proficiency endorsement will state ?English Proficient?.

* *On October 26, 2007, ICAO published State Letter AN 12/44.6-07/68 regarding
* *Assembly - Resolution A36-11- Proficiency in the English Language Used for
* *Radiotelephony, which automatically delays implementation up until March 5,
* *2011 for those countries notifying ICAO. *As such, the U.S. *has notified
* *ICAO that it file a difference that will extend the U.S. *compliance date
* *until March 5, 2009 in order to provide sufficient time for all affected
* *U.S. *airman certificate holder to comply with the ICAO Language
* *Proficiency airman certificate endorsement requirements.

* Since we are talking about gliders, not airplanes or helicopters, the
requirement would appear not to apply.

* Further, since notification has been made to the ICAO, you would have
until March 5, 2009 for international operations in airplanes and helicopters.

* If the operation were fully within the UK, in a UK registered aircraft,
it would seem to not be an international operation, so the requirement
probably would not apply there, anyway.

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Thanks to everyone for clarifying/amplifying/explicating. I'll go
ahead and take it up with the club(s) where I intend to fly and see
what they say. In the meantime, I'll get the UK medical certificate
out of the way just as a an additional precaution. With regard to
English...one of my newer certificates (I think my most recent flight
instructor) states English proficient or some such, though my wife
might beg to differ.

P3