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Old October 10th 10, 01:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
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Default USMC declares AH-1Z Viper combat ready

On Oct 5, 2:10*pm, "Paul J. Adam"
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But has there ever been a helo vs. helo battle?


There were encounters between Iraqi Mi-24s and Iranian Cobras during
their war, though I don't know the number or outcomes.

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He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.

Paul J. Adam


Ok, let's see. According to the list of Iraqi air-to-air victories
at:

http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/inde...37&Itemi d=47


12Jan81, An Iraqi Mi-25 used 12.7mm fire to down an Iranian AH-1J
16Jul82, An Iraqi Mi-25 intercepted An Iranian Bell 214C (no other
details available)
27Oct82, An Iraqi Mi-24 used an AT-6 missile to down an Iranian F-4E
14Sep83, An Iraqi Mi-25 downed an Iranian AH-1J (no other details
available)
5Feb84, 3 cases of Iraqi Mi-25's downing Iranian AH-1J's (no other
details available)
25Feb84, 3 cases of Iraqi Mi-25's downing Iranian AH-1J's (no other
details available)
16Feb86, An Iraqi Mi-25 downed an Iranian AH-1J (no other details
available)
22May86, An Iraqi Mi-25 downed an Iranian AH-1J (no other details
available)
22May88, an Iraqi SA.342L used 20mm fire to down an Iranian AH-1J
23May88, an Iraqi SA.342L used 20mm fire to down an Iranian AB.214C
25May88, 2 cases of Iraqi Mi-25's using 20mm (23mm?) fire to down
Iranian AB.214C's
30May88, An Iraqi Mi-25 used 20mm (23mm?) fire to down an Iranian AB.
214C
3Jun88, An Iraqi Mi-25 used 20mm (23mm?) fire to down an Iranian AB.
214C
4Jun88, An Iraqi Mi-25 used 20mm (23mm?) fire to down an Iranian AB.
214C
9Jun88, An Iraqi Mi-25 used 20mm (23mm?) fire to down an Iranian AB.
214C


And from the lists of Iranian air-to-air victories at:

http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/inde...35&Itemi d=47

and

http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/inde...36&Itemi d=47


14Nov80, An Iranian AH-1J used a TOW to down an Iraqi SA.342
14Nov80, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi Mi-25
24Feb81, 2 cases of Iranian AH-1J's using TOW's to down Iraqi SA.342's
??Mar82, An Iranian AH-1J used a TOW to down an Iraqi SA.342
2Nov82, 2 cases of Iranian AH-1J's using 20mm fire to down Iraqi SA.
342M's
3Nov82, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi SA.316B
21Nov82, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi Mi-25
??Jul83, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm+68mm (70mm?) rockets to down an
Iraqi MiG-21MF
27Feb84, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi Su-20
??Feb84, An Iranian AH-1J used a TOW to down an Iraqi Mi-25
3Mar84, An Iranian AH-1J+RH-53 used 20mm+12.7mm fire to down an Iraqi
MiG-23MF
10Feb86, An Iranain AH-1J used a BGM-71 TOW to down an Iraqi SA.342
13Feb86, An Iranian AH-1J used a BGM-71 TOW to down an Iraqi Mi-25
14Feb86, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi MiG-21
18Feb86, an Iranian AH-1J used a BGM-71 TOW to down an Iraqi Mi-25
19Jul88, An Iranian AH-1J used 20mm fire to down an Iraqi SA.342L


Note: the Mi-25 is a version of the "Hind" that was used by the
Iraqi's at the time.

Question: Are the air-to-air kill tables linked above accurate?

If so, the Iran/Iraq war featured more helo vs. helo combat than any
other
conflict so far.