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Old July 8th 04, 11:15 AM
Issac Goldberg
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Operation Cyanide: after the Liberty was sunk, and after
Egypt had been framed, the US would drop a nuclear bomb
on Egypt. Nasser would be gone.

If that was the goal, then Israel made (at least...) six mistakes:
1) Attack with a Mirage, a plane with a unique shape that only Israel had.


Only Israel had the Mirage? Didn't France have any, or was the entire
production run of Mirages sold to Israel? And wasn't France in on the
1956 attack on Egypt? It could have been a repeat performance by
France. Your assertion that only Israel had Mirages is obviously
wrong.

The Mirage which attacked the Liberty did not have any identification,
since the Israelis painted over identifying markings.

That is why the first goal of the Israeli attack was to take out
Liberty's communications. Israel was successful in destroying the
antennas on
Liberty's deck, but Liberty radiomen were able to jury-rig an antenna
and
send a message out, which was the only thing that saved the Liberty.
Israeli attempts to jam all of Liberty's known radio frequencies
failed.

2) Attack with the wrong weapon. For sinking ships you need half iron
bombs, like the US used in Midway, not NAPLAM.


It was decided that the Israeli navy, still in its infancy,
would have the 'honor' of sinking the Liberty. The fact that
the first four torpedoes missed shows that the Israeli navy
needed more practice.

3) Attack with a single plane.


The Israeli air force successfully took all of Liberty's above
board antennas out of action. And since one of the antenna was
a rather large and unique satellite dish, there could be no
mistaking the Liberty for an Egyptian horse transport. If Egypt had
equipped a horse transport with a satellite dish, the Israeli
air force would have sunk such a ship on the first day of
the war.

4) Leave the Liberty enough time to report the first attack, that could
not be blamed on the Egyptian air force in that point.


Only the success by the Liberty radiomen in jury rigging an antenna
allowed the radio message to be sent. According to the Liberty
radiomen, Israel did attempt to jam all of Liberty's known radio
frequencies, but the jamming failed because Liberty radoimen were able
to find a usable frequency that was not jammed.

5) Attacking with boats that displayed the Israeli flag.


Operation Cyanide depended on taking out all of Liberty's
communications ability during the initial surprise air attack. If
Liberty could not get a message out, then it did not matter if the
boats displayed the Israeli flag.

6) Not finishing the attack by a couple more torpedeos.


Israel intercepted a message that American aircraft had been
launched from aircraft carriers and were headed towards the Liberty.
Instead of risking exposure, the entire operation was called off.

A submarine surprise attack, using 4 torpedeos at once, would
be a much better method for framing Egypt.


So you agree that it was possible that Operation Cyanide
intended to frame Egypt. Did the Israeli navy even have
submarines in 1967?

In fact, one of the
planes that LBJ had recalled was armed with a nuclear bomb.
First, LBJ ordered nothing of the kind.

You cannot prove that, since it is impossible to prove a negative.

Which is the base for your never ending bull****.


The fact that you need to resort to obscenities shows that you are
not very secure with your arguments. If you had a strong case, it
would stand on its own, without the need for insults, name calling
and/or obscenities.

We hear lawyer-talk like 'Congress investigated the attack five
times and found no evidence that the attack was intentional.' But
since Congress never conducted an in-depth investigation devoted
to the attack on the Liberty, it found no evidence one way or
another since CONGRESS NEVER INVESTIGATED WHETHER THE ATTACK ON
THE LIBERTY WAS INTENTIONAL. It could just as accurately have been
said that Congress found no evidence to show that the attack on the
Liberty was an accident. See how easy it is to use weasel words?